Linear Progression and Linear Periodization
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Joe
Joe
January 30, 2025 10:09

Hello Andy, another question came to my mind. Might be a dumb question but how does double progression look like if it more than 3 sets. For example, seated calf raises, 5 sets of 12-15. Do I keep the reps at 12 for the last 2 sets then try to get those up before progressing any further? Something like this 14,13,12,12 the next week 14,13,13,12 then 14,13,13,13 and so forth.

Mil
Mil
December 5, 2024 20:47

Hi Andy, great article!

Is my understanding correct? Let’s say I did this in the past 6 months:

  • Linear progression 3×8 until I hit the wall
  • Linear periodization from 3×15 -> 3×8 until I hit the wall

Now I am thinking, after 6 months, what should I do next:

  • move further right on your scale to double progression?
  • Or change rep ranges and continue with linear progression/periodization?

Would it be good idea to continue like this:

  • Linear progression 5×5
  • Linear periodization from 5×10 -> 5×5
  • Change exercises completely, start again…
  • Only after nothing works, move to double progression
Julian
Julian
November 23, 2024 20:26

Just want to say this was very well explained, thank you !

Elliott
Elliott
November 23, 2024 00:28

Hi Andy. For Linear Periodization is it more important to change the weight in consistent predictable sizes from week to week like shown in the graph or should I just hyper focus on meeting the RPE targets, regardless of if that means less predictable weight changes?

Many Thanks and apologies if this has been answered before.

Nicholas
Nicholas
October 24, 2024 19:39

Hi Andy, if I’m doing 3 sets of back squats at reps of 12, 15, 15 and can’t lift the first set for more than 8 reps but can complete the last 2 sets of rep ranges of 15…would it be best to continue increasing the weight of the last 2 sets or avoid hitting failure until the last sets by just lowering the 1st set weight?
I feel it’s important to mention that sets 2 & 3 have an increased 20% cumalative reduction in weight from the first set.
Thank you.

Hank
Hank
July 14, 2024 08:15

Hi Andy,

Have just finished reading your (excellent) Muscle and Strength Pyramid books.

Seems to be a consistent message that volume will increase over a training career to maintain progress, and that too much volume can result in plateaued/suboptimal gains. Imagine a case where a minimum X volume 2-3 years into training will provide you with 90%+ of your maximum hypertrophy gains at that time. Say you exceed X by 50%, does your body adapt to this increased volume and thus end up needing to increase further and further from that point to continue gaining? Or is it purely a function of your size relative to genetic potential at any one time?

Cheers, Hank

Drew
Drew
April 14, 2024 12:21

Hi Andy, Thanks this is really good. I’m also liking the new Intermediate 4 day training program and doing the updated 7 email course again. Any thoughts on a deload or decreasing when leading into cardio event such as a half marathon. In the past I didn’t worry about it and then in the last year stopped weight sessions a few days out from the event but now I’m giving it a lighter week or a week off. Thanks!

Drew
Drew
April 16, 2024 12:37
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Great thanks Andy. Might leave the legs and have a lighter upper body the week prior.

Radoslav
Radoslav
April 10, 2024 01:50

Hi Andy! Which type of progression do you think would be best if I mainly want to increase the weight in my pull-ups? I was thinking about double progression in the 4-6 and 6-8 ranges, increasing the weight only when I reach the upper range in all series, but I don’t know if it will be the best choice, what do you think? 🙂

Peter
Peter
March 28, 2024 20:57

I have a question on Double Progression rule.

When doing dumbbells and single leg, which is better linear or double progression?

Peter
Peter
March 29, 2024 13:18
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Got it.

Alex
Alex
February 22, 2024 10:28

Thanks for the article!

What’s your opinion on dynamic double progression? I’ve read it’s superior to standard straight sets double progression. Do you think it could be as effective as linear periodization?

I’ve seen it described in two ways:

When you reach the top end of the rep range, and all the remaining set reps are within the range, you increase the weight.

When the first set reaches the top end of the rep range, you increase the weight on that individual set. The same goes for subsequent sets, tracking and progressing each set individually.

Appreciate your input!

Pat
Pat
December 30, 2023 03:03

Hi Andy,

Great article thank you!

For double progression, is there a way to incorporate this in a way similar to linear periodization to where you’re decreasing your total volume week over week for several weeks before increasing it again?

I understand that the whole idea behind linear periodization is to help decrease systemic fatigue week over week so you can recover better and then be able to increase volume after several weeks so double progression’s constant (though small) volume increase week over week kind of defeats this purpose. Just seeing your thoughts as I can’t think of a way to do it.

Thanks!

Pat
Pat
December 31, 2023 01:27
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Hi Andy,

That definitely makes sense thank you for the reply! Have a great New Years!

David
David
December 12, 2023 08:35

Hello there Andy,can I make progress every two or three weeks instead of four if I’m starting to use linear periodization? And by the same logic,can I make progress every five or six weeks instead of using more advanced methods once I’m pushing the limits of the intermediate stage?

Peter
Peter
June 30, 2023 13:58

How to continue to progress doing single leg exercises? In my program I have Reverse Lunges, Bulgarian Split Sq, and SLRDL with 3×8 and 3×10 @ 8 RPE. My right leg is more dominant then my left. Left leg shakes and struggles to even get to 5-6 reps.

How to correct the imbalance in strength? Should I drop the weights where I can complete the required reps for the weaker left leg and use same weights for both?

Thank you,

Peter

Peter
Peter
July 3, 2023 13:17
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Thank you.

What I understand is I should use the lowest load on the weaker leg that allows me to complete my required reps @8RPE and use that same load for the stronger leg.

Kevin
Kevin
June 28, 2023 03:14

Hi Andy, not sure if you've addressed this in previous comments. When using linear periodization (wave loading) for compound lifts, if reps are missed in subsequent weeks would you just remain at that step in the wave until all reps are completed or should other adjustments be made, such as switching to double progression? Quick example: week 1 @ 185x8x3, week 2 190x7x3, but in week 3 the lifter performs 195x6x2 and only gets 4 or 5 on set 3.

thanks for any response

Ali_80
Ali_80
May 26, 2023 07:14

I have a small home gym with limited weights, should I increase by set count when I have reached the max weight I have on my bar? This is about progression overall. I can’t get any more weights plates so only option is to considere more sets…..

Ali_80
Ali_80
May 26, 2023 17:51
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Roger Wilco!

Jonathan
Jonathan
April 9, 2023 01:42

Hi Andy,

I am trying to make sense of the instruction given under "Using RPE with Linear Progression" whereby the trainee should lower the load for succeeding sets if RPE was too high in the first set vs the intended target. Wouldn't this qualify has having a performance drop off and therefore necessitate a deload? Or would this only be applicable for a program where RPE is specifically indicated vs one where it objective is just to hit the intended # of reps with a given load, ie 3×10? Are these 2 approaches distinctly different from each other? If so, when would you want to switch to RPE based Linear Progression vs the Basic Linear Progression?

Thanks,

Jonathan

Jonathan
Jonathan
April 10, 2023 23:31
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Thanks for the clarification Andy. I'm currently on linear progression due to just returning to lifting again from a long layoff. I'm doing it as you described, straight sets and try to progress session to session by matching reps and increasing load when I hit the rep targets. However, in some compound lifts like incline DB bench and DB OHP, I've been sort of stuck at the same weights for a few sessions. There's some potential explanations for it other than actually stalling (i.e. there were times I didn't get enough sleep, was having a cold etc..), but I've been wondering if there would be a benefit to mixing light(er) and heavy days to potentially spur faster strength gains.

Right now I'm doing PPL 2x a week-ish. So let's say Chest is Mon-Thur. I'm doing 3×10 (I'm 39 y.o. and just felt that keeping it "lighter" at sets of 10 might be less risk for injury yet still be hypertrophic). My thought is instead of just sticking to 3×10 and increasing load when I hit my rep targets session to session, what if I do "Heavy bench" on Monday for 3×6, then "Lighter Bench" on Thursday for 3×10-12? I would then have separate linear progressions for each day, i.e. only increase the load on Mondays and Thursdays if I hit 6 and 10-12 reps respectively on those days. Could that potentially give me better strength gains overall? My main focus is still hypertrophy though.

Thanks!

Jonathan
Jonathan
April 11, 2023 07:42
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Awesome, thanks! I used to do this in the past and seemed to gain strength a bit faster.

Thomas
Thomas
March 13, 2023 03:35

Hi Andy,

Although this article is a really thorough explanation, I guess I've missed some points …

1. As you strongly advocate against going to failure at least for compound exercises, how would the RPEs of table "Example novice progression using 5×5:" be?
If we look at that table's Training session 23 for example: The lifter did just 4 instead of 5 reps in 4th set, and just 3 instead of 5 reps in 5th set – at which RPEs did the lifter stop these 2 sets? And at which RPEs did he stop the first 3 sets?

Possibly stupid question: How do you know that linear progression ceases to work? When one has to deload "too frequently"?

Jay
Jay
March 20, 2023 01:50
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Following up Thomas's question on March 13:

If, for instance, the RPE setting is 6-7 for the first set in Workout 23 in the "Example novice progression using 5×5:", and the trainee is able to complete 5 reps in the first set, but with an RPE of 9 (due to trainee's residual fatigue from an earlier session), should the trainee continue the remaining sets at the same load? Or should he reduce his load for the remaining sets so that he meets an RPE of 6-7 in sets 2 through 5?

If he is to reduce his load, would this be considered an unplanned "deload?" (I realize I'm potentially inventing a nonsensical term, but just trying to make sure I understand all the nuances of this RPE-based rule).

Jay
Jay
March 20, 2023 12:27
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Thanks for clarifying with the last answer! One last followup from the same example: would the trainee simply reattempt the original load from #23 on the subsequent workout and then continue week-to-week linear progression if possible?

Alon I.
Alon I.
March 7, 2023 01:58

Hi Andy, I've recently finish reading the excellent TMSP strength book.
Since it's quite difficult to add weight in Compound non barbell exercises every session, what do you think of adding weight on these exercises every other session from the start instead waiting for them to stall.
BTW, I really hope there will more episodes of the rising coach collective.

Thanks in advance 🙂

Alon
Alon
March 8, 2023 14:41
Reply to  Andy Morgan

Thank you for replying 🙏
So if I understand correctly,
as long as progress in weight occurs every session in non BB exercises they should keep it going? I'm not sure that's realistic for a novice or a complete beginner with good form, even when deloading appropriately.

Ex: DB Chest press w1 15kg w2 17.5 w3 20kg all at 10×3.
Just trying to make sure Im not wrong as i have clients at different levels of experience as a PT.

Vinicius
Vinicius
January 11, 2023 01:00

Could i double progress on every exercise? I find easier to track and rnjoy more doing that way, even for compound movements

Nick
Nick
January 8, 2023 15:41

Hi Andy. 2 questions from me:

Do we keep bulking calories the same in a reload week or drop to maintenance?

For double progression, having just started your programme properly, does it matter if we improve faster than the 1 rep from session to session?

Thanks!